Tuesday, October 28, 2008

Obama Affinity to Marxists Dates Back to College Days

Obama Affinity to Marxists Dates Back to College Days - FOXNews.com Elections

Barack Obama laughs off charges of socialism. Joe Biden scoffs at references to Marxism. Both men shrug off accusations of liberalism.

But Obama himself acknowledges that he was drawn to socialists and even Marxists as a college student. He continued to associate with Marxists later in life, even choosing to launch his political career in the living room of a self-described Marxist, William Ayers, in 1995, when Obama was 34.

Obama's affinity for Marxists began when he attended Occidental College in Los Angeles.

"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully," the Democratic presidential candidate wrote in his memoir, "Dreams From My Father." "The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists."...

German philosopher Karl Marx, author of

German philosopher Karl Marx, author of "The Communist Manifesto,"

advocated redistributing wealth in order to achieve a classless society. (AP Photo)

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

Actually, Marx advocated a worldwide workers revolution to overthrow the capitalist class (in other words kill them) redistribute the wealth and thus creating a classless society.

Marx's politics is pretty much discredited, but Marxist social theories are still applicable. Marx offered many explanations for how class based societies work and how power is often consolidated at the top of the hierarchy. He posited that value is the result of people doing work and that people are not paid the value of their labor.

I don't know exactly what kind of "Marxism" Obama was into in college, so I'm speaking only in generalities. But identifying with Marxist theory, in general, does not mean accepting Marxist politics.

The next point is...so what? Last I heard we still live in a free country where a person can have whatever beliefs they want to have. If I recall, FDR was often accused of Marxism.

Anonymous said...

"...but Marxist social theories are still applicable."
Get a real job.

Anonymous said...

80% of the jobs being created in this economy are dead end, low wage jobs with no benefits. What job would you suggest? I wonder if Marx would have anything to say about this. Oh...that's right...he did!

By the way...have you read Marx?

Author said...

Please site your source - something other than a Democrat saying "80% of the jobs..."

Where's the hard data?

Anonymous said...

I'm a former sociologist, of course I have read Marx. It's required reading in academia, comrade. As is Weber, Skinner, Mead, etc.

As for job suggestions: I highly recommend being a small business owner. No quicker way to see the reality of how government loves to punish the little guy just as much as the big guy.

Anonymous said...

Then as a former sociologist you know that there are many ways to apply Marx without actually being a Marxist. I understand what you are saying about small business, but with regard to punishing the "big guy" I'm afraid after the last bailout that's a hard case to make.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, Former Sociologist, I reread the string and thought the "get a real job" comment was from the author. Of course I know you would have read at least a little bit of Marx. Didn't mean to offend.

As for siting my source regarding the 80% figure, I got that from the Department of Labor Statistics. The information is from last year, but a review of the latest figures doesn't show anything much different.

Anonymous said...

"...but with regard to punishing the "big guy" I'm afraid after the last bailout that's a hard case to make.
Bilouts aside (a flawed notion of Keynesian economic theory which IMO should NOT have been passed), the US has the 2nd highest average of combined federal and state tax rates on businesses (39.3%), just behind Japan at 39.5%.

With ever increasing targets on the backs of large and small coroprations, those that provide jobs (businesses, not government) will find it harder to employ as many people given these restrictions, which some want to have increased in an Obama, Nader, or McKinney administration. If they are successful, they will be left to wonder why unemployment will rise and productivity will drop...