Henry Kissinger believes Barack Obama misstated his views on diplomacy with US adversaries and is not happy about being mischaracterized. He says: "Senator McCain is right. I would not recommend the next President of the United States engage in talks with Iran at the Presidential level. My views on this issue are entirely compatible with the views of my friend Senator John McCain. We do not agree on everything, but we do agree that any negotiations with Iran must be geared to reality."
So much for that lie, Mr. Obama
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We should all be concerned as to whether Kissinger is unhappy. We should all be concerned about who Kissinger prefers in the White House. Why the last guy Kissinger supported...well...he resigned in disgrace. But that's not the point. I don't see any reason why Kissinger shouldn't support McCain. Why, when McCain was dropping bombs on civilians in Vietnam he was pursuing Kissinger's illegal and immoral policies. Might just give an idea of the direction that a McCain presidency would take with Iraq, which we are so trying not to compare to Vietnam.
You're opinions about the Viet Nam war don't change the fact that Obama lied and Kissenger called him out for it.
Oh, and be sure you hang out at the airports so you can spit on our boys as they come home this time, too.
By the way, Mike. It's nice to hear from you. I don't think we've seen each other in 8 or 9 years. Didn't know you were such a lib :)
A proud, radical liberal as a matter of fact. No, I don't spit on soldiers. I believe that we should support our troops by, I don't know, not lying about a rationale to go war. In fact, many members of my family are serving or have served in Iraq. My position has never changed. It's a shame that one can't question the status quo without be accused being a traitor.
Yes, it's been a while. I think this debate is going to be a lot of fun. I hope to have a blog up on Mad Sociologist soon so you can return the favor. You can use the forums, however, if you like.
Turns out that Obama didn't exactly lie, though he may have mis-stated Kissinger's words. Turns out the Kissinger does support negotiating with our enemies, but not at the presidential level, as Obama inferred. Kissinger suggests that the Secretary of State be in charge of such negotiations. OK...this story is a big "so what?" By the way, there's a great site at http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/ It is a journalist project and appears to be pretty objective in its analysis. It pulls no punches and subjects the candidates to equal critique. A great resource for a blog that claims to be on a Quest for the Truth.
Two points:
(1) You find it amazing that someone can't disagree with the rationale for a war without being called a traitor - I find it amazing that someone who believes he is fighting for freedom around the globe and helping opressed people must be considered a 'baby-killer', intentionally dropping bombs on innocent women and children.
Two sides of the same coin - no?
(2) Obama had the chance to clarify what he was "inferring" during the debate after McCain tried to correct him and he insisted on trying to portray Dr. Kissinger as supporting Obama's position. Knowing you are wrong and attempting to convince people otherwise is lying in my book.
McCain was, by his own admission, bombing "heavily populated" areas of Hanoi when he was shot down. What do you think that means. Is it intentional? Of course. Was he following orders like a good soldier? You could make that argument. I didn't call McCain a "baby killer." Those were your terms. But were babies killed during these and every other bombing in history. Absolutely. I know if it was my child who was killed I would not give the bomber hero status and I would shudder to think he could become the most powerful man in the world.
As for Obama's lie, OK. If that's your standard I can appreciate that. I even agree with you. But I would suggest that you apply the same standard to McCain, which I see no-where in this blog (though I admit I haven't read everything on the site). That's why I suggested the website above and linked it to Mad Sociologist.
PS: The Mad Sociologist Blog is set up. There's nothing significant there now, but I plan a blog on the status of the debates. Check it out in the next day or so.
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